# In Conversation with the Dean featuring Professor Dolly Chugh

Dean [Raghu Sundaram](http://www.stern.nyu.edu/experience-stern/leadership/nyu-stern-dean-raghu-sundaram) and Professor [Dolly Chugh](https://www.stern.nyu.edu/faculty/bio/dolly-chugh) engaged in a wide-ranging discussion, touching on a variety of topics including how to fight unconscious and systemic bias, different approaches to pursue social change and social justice, and the value of being a good-ish person.

Watch the full discussion below:

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— 6/18/2020

![Raghu and Dolly headshots](/sites/default/files/styles/480w/public/assets/images/Raghu_Dolly%20230%20x%20260%20%281%29_0.jpg?itok=BWpF2yGL)