# The Dunning-Kruger effect, joint research by Professor Justin Kruger, is referenced

1 Faculty News February 15, 2019 ![NPR logo](/sites/default/files/styles/246w/public/assets/images/con_030855.jpg?itok=Ti1_93MD)>

Excerpt from [NPR](https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=694288204) -- "In other words, the Dunning-Kruger effect is people think they know more than they do or they underestimate what they don't know about a topic. And we see this all of the time at Thanksgiving dinner or on Twitter."

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